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Classic!Who s9—The Day of the Daleks

Quick review, yes!

This was a very nice one. It felt more… more sci-fi, if that makes sense, with the whole mystery bordering on ghost story at first (hello again, magic vs. science themes!), and all the business with the timey-wimey. I loved seeing Three and Jo encounter themselves at first, Jo all being like "WTF??!!" and the point Three made later about ghosts coming to them from the past and future—which seemed to refer to that appearance at the time, but really was fairly good foreshadowing to the following events of the plot, in hindsight. Conveniently, Three no longer minded the concept of ghosts, but just as a manner of speaking.

SO. The Daleks were ruling Earth again in the far future—I thought The Daleks Masters of Earth had sorted that much, but apparently not! And it's just very clever and very tragic that humans just set out their own demise, reaching into their own past to try and undo the events they thought had caused it all, but actually creating a paradox by becoming the source themselves. This is a bit of a time travel trope, the undoing tragic historical events, but a good one. The Doctor's dynamic with those rebels was interesting, and also, Jo's. As in The Daemons, Jo showed much credulity by Three's standards—being completely spooked by the ghost story atmosphere at first, and all too ready to believe in those things, then trusting her terrible first impressions of the rebels instead of hearing out their story, and later allowing the controller to manipulate her, just because he was polite, decent and showing apparently genuine concern, whereas the rebels were desperate people and a bit near the fanatical edge. Mostly she was human, and fearful and using her instincts or what was easy/comfortable to believe more than her head, but this time Three managed to express his disagreement and/or disapproval without treating her like she was a waste of space, which is fine by me, let me tell you. ♥ (I was shaking my head at her a little bit, myself, but getting scared and not thinking straight is understandable to some extent.)

What else? There were One and Two cameos, when the Daleks used the mind analysis machine to recognize Three despite his regeneration. Three got manhandled roughly; this happens to him a fair bit. (From memory, in Inferno and Terror of the Autons.) The controller who worked with the Daleks proved more layered than he seemed at first glance, traumatized by the wars and thinking he had no choice if he wanted to survive and maybe do small things to help other humans if he got the chance, but mostly watch out for his own ass. He even turned around and betrayed the Daleks in the end, so the Doctor could stop it all from happening in the first place, and lost his life for it, bless. (While I think one of the actual rebels turned around and sold him to get his place. HUMANS ARE NOT ALWAYS WHAT THEY SEEM.) On another note, we had Three waxing lyrical on wine, and Yates trolling Benton by going all haughty-superior on his ass while Jo was offering him food during his watch, only to… take the food for himself, the lovely bastard XD

The Brig also did another "Doctor! Come back here at once!", followed by a dismal little head shake. And the Doctor did some Venusian karate, and took the time for a sip of wine between two moves.

I started The Curse of Peladon also and it looks very good. *nods*

Quotable lines:

Three: "Do you believe in ghosts, Brigadier? […] Oh, my mistake. I was forgetting the unimaginative nature of the military mind." [This is even more rich after The Daemons.]

Three: "Yes, the temporal feedback circuit has overloaded."
Brig: "The what's done what?"
Three: "In your terms, Brigadier, the thing's blown a fuse!"

Three: "You know, one thing you can be certain of with politicians is that whatever their political ideas they always keep a well-stocked larder."

Jo [about the Doctor]: "Well, at the moment, he's carrying on rather like a one man food and wine society."

Three: "Do you know, I remember saying to old Napoleon. Boney, I said, always remember an army marches on its stomach."

Three: "there are many different kinds of ghosts, Jo. Ghosts from the past and ghosts from the future."
Jo: "Well, what kind did you have in mind?"
Three: "What's more to the point is, have they got us in mind?"

Three [to gagged Jo]: "You know, I've got a good mind to let you stay like that. So much more peaceful. In any case, even if I released you, you'd probably ask me a lot of fool questions."

Three: "Look, try and use your intelligence, man, even if you are a politician."

Comments

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irishvampire13
Jun. 11th, 2015 08:51 pm (UTC)
Another one I have the novelization for. ^.^ I need to watch this one.

Three [to gagged Jo]: "You know, I've got a good mind to let you stay like that. So much more peaceful.

*eyes you* Sounds like something someone once said to me... :-P
flowsoffire
Jun. 15th, 2015 08:20 pm (UTC)
Just you wait till you see my Sea Devils review, there is cuff action XD
irishvampire13
Jun. 15th, 2015 08:21 pm (UTC)
Watched the first half of it this morning. Saw that. Instantly thought of you. *smiles sweetly*
flowsoffire
Jun. 19th, 2015 07:13 pm (UTC)
Hehehe! :D
irishvampire13
Jun. 19th, 2015 07:15 pm (UTC)
Seems to me that someone is just a bit too pleased with herself...
flowsoffire
Jun. 23rd, 2015 06:43 pm (UTC)
Oh, you think? ;)
betawho
Jun. 12th, 2015 02:09 am (UTC)
I agree, this is a great story, not one of the best, but one with well realized ideas and consequences to the characters' actions.

I did like how the characters were more layered than they seemed at first, the controller seeming to be the hardass Dalek puppet, but in the end doing what he could to overthrow them. The rebels who just want to heal their world. Even Jo, who was not at her brightest, was simply being naive, which makes complete sense for her character, even if we do see through it. (After all, she didn't really see any of the "reality" of that time, beyond a polite man trying to help her, and a bunch of fanatic rebels, she didn't see the slave camps or outside that the Daleks created. (At least, I don't remember he doing so, didn't she just appear in the control room in the future?)

I like how Yates pulls rank, Benton's "Oh no!" face, when he knows he's about to lose his snack, the Doctor going all gastronomic, and "age of aquarius" Jo being spooked at each fluttering curtain.

I think there's a lot more good characterization in Classic Who than it often gets credit for.

As usual, I love the Doctor and Brigadier's banter. I like Jo's earnestness, I like how perfectly normal and believable Benton and Yates are, and can even sympathise with the rebels. (I also love that one of the rebels was a completely no nonsense woman. Not that she was a hardnose or anything. But I like that she was simply allowed to be a rebel who happened to be a woman, but was no less competent [and not required to be "super-competent" or "sexy" or otherwise "over the top' just because she was the "female" rebel.] That was an accomplishment for the era the show was made in, the 70s.

And, I always love it when Doctor Who explains the "magic" or "supernatural" with science. It makes it feel like a more believable world to me. Not one filled with less wonder, because time traveling apparitions are still very creepy and cool, but it makes the stories make sense in a way that cements the show (and the universe it lives in) with a believability that I like.

And I like seeing the Doctor be a scientist, testing the gun, repairing the time travel device, working on the Tardis console. Providing explanations that don't just stop with "it's timey-wimey."

flowsoffire
Jun. 16th, 2015 07:48 pm (UTC)
I did like how the characters were more layered than they seemed at first, the controller seeming to be the hardass Dalek puppet, but in the end doing what he could to overthrow them. The rebels who just want to heal their world.
Absolutely! The characters were all quite nicely handled.

Even Jo, who was not at her brightest, was simply being naive, which makes complete sense for her character, even if we do see through it. (After all, she didn't really see any of the "reality" of that time, beyond a polite man trying to help her, and a bunch of fanatic rebels, she didn't see the slave camps or outside that the Daleks created. (At least, I don't remember he doing so, didn't she just appear in the control room in the future?)
Indeed, she just appeared in there. And after the scare the rebels gave her, it was all the easier for a smooth and clever man to manipulate her, as you said. Pretty understandable.

I like how Yates pulls rank, Benton's "Oh no!" face, when he knows he's about to lose his snack, the Doctor going all gastronomic, and "age of aquarius" Jo being spooked at each fluttering curtain.
They are all too precious!

I think there's a lot more good characterization in Classic Who than it often gets credit for.
True :)

(I also love that one of the rebels was a completely no nonsense woman. Not that she was a hardnose or anything. But I like that she was simply allowed to be a rebel who happened to be a woman, but was no less competent [and not required to be "super-competent" or "sexy" or otherwise "over the top' just because she was the "female" rebel.] That was an accomplishment for the era the show was made in, the 70s.
Absolutely! I really liked that character, too.

And, I always love it when Doctor Who explains the "magic" or "supernatural" with science. It makes it feel like a more believable world to me. Not one filled with less wonder, because time traveling apparitions are still very creepy and cool, but it makes the stories make sense in a way that cements the show (and the universe it lives in) with a believability that I like.
And I like seeing the Doctor be a scientist, testing the gun, repairing the time travel device, working on the Tardis console. Providing explanations that don't just stop with "it's timey-wimey."

This as well. It remains sci-fi, and it all holds together. And the Doctor being super-clever is the best thing!
scripsi
Jun. 12th, 2015 07:39 am (UTC)
Funny, I couldn't recall this episode at all so I had to go and read the summary on Wikipedia. And I still don't remember much. I Think I need to Watch it again! On the otehr hand I remember The Curse of Peladon very well...
flowsoffire
Jun. 16th, 2015 07:59 pm (UTC)
Yes, funny how some slip off our mind!

I watched The Curse of Peladon too now, must get around to that review. It was really good :)
a_phoenixdragon
Jun. 14th, 2015 04:30 am (UTC)
Whoa...sounds marvelous!! I really want to catch up soon!!

*HUGS*
flowsoffire
Jun. 18th, 2015 06:40 pm (UTC)
You bet :D Three is epic!
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